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What's My First Step....?
Posted by Anonymous . updated on 2/26/2009
I have an idea for a computer program that currently does not exist and for which there is an abundant need and something of a public outcry. I know based upon the money spent on other programs in this "community" that it has the potential to be extremely profitable. I have thought through how the program would work and what it would do, and have concluded that it would be relatively simple to create and market the program and it would have a world-wide market place.... here is the problem , I know nothing about computer programming and I know that the moment I disclose this idea to any programming company they will quickly recognize the profit potential of this idea and probably begin working on it or something just like it right away. In this instance, I have little confidence in a confidentiality and non-disclosure agreement for several reasons including the questionable or non-existent ethical practices of many programming concerns, and the fact that if I don't have something to "hang my hat on" that says this idea belongs to me, someone could begin working on a program virtually identical to mine. Any thoughts on how I should proceed, or what steps I should take before I pitch this idea would be greatly appreciated.
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JSonnab...
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The first steps, in my opinion, are:
(1) Find a qualified programmer.
(2) Have an attorney draft and the developer sign a software development agreement that protects your intellectual property interests in the software.
(3) Have the programmer develop the software.
Once that is done, you can take the dual steps of:
(1) seeking proper protection for your software and
(2) shopping the software around.
- Jeff
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Penny_B...
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>> I have little confidence in a confidentiality and non-disclosure agreement...<< I hear you on that score. Since what is/is not enforcible per each state's laws I would go with an attorney in the state the programmer resides.
>> (3) Have the programmer develop the software.<<
Would not the programmer be the first to reduce it to practice and, perhaps, may need to do more than tweak it to get it to produce its intended results. Why would he/she not minimally be named inventor and/or a co-inventor?
Afterall, the "conceptiventor" is merely that while the programmer works out performance nuts n' bolts turning the idea into a doable reality through his technical skills? (I do understand the notion of surrending patent/copyright [IP] and financial rights in exchange for full payment).
PB
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JSonnab...
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Quote Would not the programmer be the first to reduce it to practice and, perhaps, may need to do more than tweak it to get it to produce its intended results. Why would he/she not minimally be named inventor and/or a co-inventor? In some instances, you may be entirely correct, at least to the extent of a co-inventor. These issues should always be addressed in the software development agreement.
- Jeff
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Isaac
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The question of whether a programmer, lab assistant, or technician working under the direction of someone is an inventor has no simple answer other than "it depends". Consider that a software invention can be constructively reduced to practice by being described in a patent application that contain only descriptions of functionality and it becomes clear that a software based invention can be patented even though no coded version of the invention has ever existed.
On the other hand, the process of generating code for even a non novel idea can result in the programmer generating a patentable invention. In that case, the person contracting for the code might not even be an inventor at all.
An inventor is someone who contributes to the conception of a patentable invention as claimed. Someone who simply reduces the invention to practice as directed by someone else is not an inventor. Easier to say than to apply.
Obviously a great deal of the business issues can be dealt with via contractural agreements between the involved parties.
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Tony
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If you outsource the programming make sure you get a non-disclosure agreement signed, preventing the developer from leaking your idea or stealing it. You would also want to make it clear that you own all rights to the work and are just hiring the developer(s) as a "Work made for hire". Then after your software is complete you would want to Copyright your software. You can go through a lawyer, or there are some places online that do it, or buy software to do it - there is a product called Essential Copyright that enables you to copyright all of your works (software) for like $50 - it has a wizard that walks you through the application process - www.esoftwareinc.com
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Isaac
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I'd be careful with "work for hire" when software is involved. Software does not seem to fit in the category of works that can be works for hire when the programmer is not an employee. Its best to back up a "work for hire" provision in such a contract with an agreement that the copyright will be assigned to the buyer if it turns out that the law won't allow it to be a work for hire.
Also it's important to note that an NDA won't preserve patent rights from 102(b) if someone does leak the rights or appropriate the invention in violation of the NDA.
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JSonnab...
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Quote Software does not seem to fit in the category of works that can be works for hire when the programmer is not an employee. That's the first time I've heard that one. Any particular case law you've got in mind?
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Isaac
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No case law that I can cite. But the statute does have an enumeration of the types of works that can be works for hire and it seems to me that in the general case it would be difficult to characterize software as one of the enumerated types. The list applies to non employee created works.
As evidence that the enumerated list should be taken seriously I would point to the huge flap created when some unknown party snuck in some legislation that added musical works to the list which would have allowed typical industry contracted works to be works for hire. That provision has since been removed, but there is case law suggesting that without that provision, even contract terms designating those works as works for hire are ineffective.
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